Manton and Daniel talk about the iPad before the iPad 2 was announced, Developers Against Poverty, NSConference, support, and version numbers.
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Links for the show:
- Developers Against Poverty — campaign to bring clean water to areas of the world that need it
- NSConference UK 2011 — UK developer conference from Scotty of iDeveloper TV
- OmniGroup — huge thanks to Omni for their donation to Developers Against Poverty
- Smiley — measuring customer happiness from 37signals

Daniel Jalkut is the founder of Red Sweater Software. His most popular products are MarsEdit, Black Ink, FastScripts, and FlexTime.
Manton Reece is the founder of Riverfold Software. He builds e-book software for Ingram Digital and has 2 independent products: Clipstart and Wii Transfer.
Apple must have taken a hint from your previous episode’s title – selling Xcode for 5 bucks now, heh. But someone has to pay for the bandwidth when each Mac App store update means re-downloading the whole 4 gig installer again, right?
Interesting discussion on version numbering. I agree with most of it but has a comment I want to add regarding the use of 0.x versions which you made very clear that you should never ever release publicly.
Releasing 0.x versions can be ok, but it depends on your development model. If your development model is closed then it makes sense to wait until you can call it 1.0. However, if your development model is open then you typically share your work long before it’s ready for production so that others may review it or contribute to it. It’s still about being honest. It has nothing to do with whether or not you’re professional or hobbyist, works alone or in a team, charge or give it away for free; it’s just a matter of if your development model is open or closed.